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Ted Cruz and the Orlando shootings.. - Admin - 06-13-2016
Ted Cruz's solution (see article below):
- Stop 'political correctness' and start calling this radical Islamic terrorism
- Stop the nonsense about gun control
Let's see, how does ending 'political correctness' going to do anything to stop these kind of attacks?
Nothing I can think of, in fact, it's probably more the contrary, by feeding the impression the West is at war with a religion, this might estrange more, not less Muslims from the West, radicalize more instead of less people and induce less others to cooperate and warn law enforcement agencies of potential dangers.
And people who are on a no flight list can simply buy semi-automatic rifles? This is idiotic. Whatever the motives, an order of magnitude of Americans are killed by these compared to almost every other Western country.
It's also hilarious Cruz accusing others of rigid ideology, but anyway.
Ted Cruz delivers strong message to 'Democrats who are loud champions of the gay and lesbian community' Ted Cruz forcefully blasted Democrats in a strong Sunday statement on the deadly terror attack at an LGBTQ nightclub in Orlando earlier Sunday morning.
"The next few days will be sadly predictable," the Texas senator said in the statement. "Democrats will try to use this attack to change the subject. As a matter of rigid ideology, far too many Democrats - from Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton - will refuse to utter the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.'"
"They will claim this attack, like they claimed every previous attack, was isolated and had nothing to do with the vicious Islamist theology that is daily waging war on us across the globe," the Republican, who made an unsuccessful bid at his party's presidential nomination, continued. "And they will try to exploit this terror attack to undermine the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms of law-abiding Americans." Cruz said "enough is enough" and called for Democrats and Republicans to join forces, "abandon political correctness," and defeat jihadists.
RE: Ted Cruz and the Orlando shootings.. - Admin - 06-13-2016
From what we know the shooter was born and raised in the US, then got radicalized, one simply has to ask two questions here:
- By calling it Radical Islamic terrorism, is that going to produce more or less of these kind of alienated people?
- By making heavy weaponry easily available, even for people who were apparently on a no fly list, is that going to make attacks of these kind more or less likely?
RE: Ted Cruz and the Orlando shootings.. - Admin - 06-13-2016
Keep in mind where ISIS actually comes from:
Quote:What Gray didn’t know — but might have expected — was that he was not merely looking at the United States’ former enemies, but its future ones as well. According to intelligence experts and Department of Defense records, the vast majority of the leadership of what is today known as ISIS, including its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, did time at Camp Bucca. And not only did the US feed, clothe and house these jihadists, it also played a vital, if unwitting, role in facilitating their transformation into the most formidable terrorist force in modern history.
How a US prison camp helped create ISIS | New York Post
Quote:Camp Bucca in Iraq housed more than 100,000 men between 2003 and 2009 Among those held in Camp Bucca was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the current leader of ISIS Iraqi prisoners who refused to look at a Maxim magazine during an interrogation was considered to be more radical than others The worst jihadists were placed together where they had plenty of time to plot terror against America since US guards did not speak Arabic The jihadists wrote their contact info on the inside of their US provided boxer shorts in order to meet again upon being released
US Camp Bucca in Iraq accidentally formed ISIS by housing jihadists together | Daily Mail Online
For a large take, see The Guardian
RE: Ted Cruz and the Orlando shootings.. - Admin - 06-13-2016
Compare the nonsense from Cruz to the sensible proposals from Obama:
Obama warned of a massive loophole in US gun laws for terrorists just 12 days before the Orlando shootings
- Simon Thomsen, Business Insider Australia
- 10h
The gunman, 29-year-old Omar Saddiqui Mateen, a US citizen, reportedlypledged allegiance to the Islamic State, the terrorist group also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh, during the shooting.
President Barack Obama called the massacre "an act of terror and an act of hate."
He also used the incident to reiterate his call for tighter gun control in America.
"This massacre is therefore a further reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a weapon that lets them shoot people in a school, or a house of worship, or a movie theater, or a nightclub," Obama said. "And we have to decide if that's the kind of country that we want to be."
Obama's call came just 12 days after he addressed the issue of gun control and terrorism during a town-hall event with PBS NewsHour in Indiana on June 1.
He rejected the claims that Democrats were trying to disarm the nation, saying "more guns sold since I've been president than just about any time in US history."
"There are enough guns for every man, woman, and child in this country," he continued. "And at no point have I ever proposed confiscating guns from responsible gun owners."
Obama compared guns to cars, saying that science had been used to make driving safer but that Congress would not allow the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study gun violence.
"When we talked about doing effective background checks, it was resisted because the notion was we were going to take your guns away," Obama said.
He then laid out a scenario chillingly similar to the one involving the Orlando gunman:
Quote:I just came from a meeting today in the Situation Room in which I've got people who we know have been on ISIL websites, living here in the United States, US citizens, and we're allowed to put them on the "No fly" list when it comes to airlines.
But because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.
This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer.
And if he wants to walk into a gun store or gun show right now and buy as many weapons and ammo as he can, nothing's prohibiting him from doing that, even though the FBI knows who that person is.
Mateen was investigated by the FBI twice, but the case was closed each time. He legally purchased a handgun and a long gun in the past few days before the attack, a police spokesman said in a news conference on Sunday.
Obama ended his June 1 answer with a plea: "There is a way to have common-sense gun laws … but the only way we're going to do that is if we don't have a situation which anything that is proposed is viewed as some tyrannical destruction of the Second Amendment. And that's how too often the issue gets framed."